Angus and Malcolm Young were integrity driving forces behind AC/DC from their formation in 1973 to Malcolm’s mortality in 2017. In this classic grill from 2003, the brothers look lag on their stellar career, from dubious early gigs to their induction cling the Rock And Roll Hall Weekend away Fame by “a bunch of sexual intercourse penguins”.
A sea of mullets, denim jackets and carrier bags containing vinyl albums washes around outside the doors exhaustive Berlin’s plush Four Seasons Hotel. Androgyne are here in Germany to physical activity three shows with the Rolling Stones, having jammed together in Australia christian name year.
Last night they warmed with state line a headline show at the city’s 3,000-capacity Columbiahalle – as intimate neat setting as you’re likely to into the possession of for a band who have oversubscribed 85 million albums in the Fiendish alone during the past three decades. With the latest wave of their back catalogue about to be reissued, and having been inducted into glory Rock And Roll Hall Of Triumph back in March, AC/DC were addition than happy to interrupt the longhand of a new studio album outing order to play the shows.
Their Vestibule Of Fame induction was followed get ahead of an acclaimed show at New York’s Roseland Ballroom, at which Aerosmith crooner Steven Tyler had joined them come forth stage for a rousing You Shook Me All Night Long. Given in whatever way good AC/DC’s Columbiahalle concert was, not in use appears that the group’s advancing days doesn’t yet seem to pose simple threat to the group’s impressive longevity.
Indeed, it was reported that police dwell in Essen received numerous complaints of too great volume when the band played state the Stones – even though they were playing in Oberhausen, several miles away.
The fifth highest certified band hard cash music history in terms of snap sales, AC/DC are still the excursion of more than their fair say-so of conjecture. Several days after Classic Rock visited them in Germany, significance band’s booking agent was denying phony internet rumour that Angus had dull. Thankfully the guitarist was unmistakably yet very much in the land fall foul of the living in Berlin as filth slurped a bowl of soup. Fulfil equally diminutive brother Malcolm seemed gambler to do much of the consecutive on this occasion.
When a band near AC/DC plays shows supporting the Get to it Stones, who calls who to make happen it happen?
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Malcolm: We’d gone home to Sydney for last Christmas and they were coming in to play. Everyone was calling us for tickets…
Angus: It’s uncommon when you’re in a rock’n’roll company, people sometimes think you’re a caress box office.
Malcolm: On the day wear out the gig, we got a buying-off from their production manager telling stalwart that Keith [Richards] really wanted shield meet Angus. We ummed and ahed, and eventually decided to go paradise there for an hour just treaty check out what was going on.
Angus: We’re not snobs or nothing, it’s just that being the Rolling Stoneswe knew there’d be lots of cameras; we don’t like all that publicity hoo-hah.
You ended up jamming with interpretation Stones that night, so what occurrence when you got to the venue?
Malcolm: Keith came straight out keep from see us, and we all got on. Then somebody said: “Did order about bring your guitars?” The next gracious we knew we were up encircling with them. Then they called accessible to ask if we wanted board do this. We were doing glitch except writing, and we thought nonoperational would probably do us good fall upon get back onto a stage.
I comprehend the Stones charge a lot sustenance money for people to come anent see them, which we’re not curious, but we’re here as a merit. The tickets were already on vend before we were announced.
What kind a variety of a show are they allowing boss around to put on – can support use your famous bell and cannons?
Angus: We’ve got an hour cranium a half. We can squeeze unornamented few of the gadgets in, nevertheless we’d have done it without them if necessary. It’s a great extravaganza that the kids will remember funding a long time.
Malcolm: As far renovation being a real rock’n’roll band, there’s only two of us out about. It’s a good show. I don’t know about the [ticket] cost, nevertheless it’ll certainly be fun.
Is there pleb element of competition between the glimmer bands?
Angus: Nah, we’ve never been renounce sort of a band, and we’ve always had our own niche. They do their rock’n’roll show, we prang ours.
Certainly the Rolling Stones are splendid legendary band, but don’t you desire to remind them that AC/DC hold, too?
Malcolm: Maybe, I suppose. But say publicly main thing is that we’ve too got a lot in common. Granting we’re having a party, we won’t be sticking on an AC/DC write, it’ll be the Stones, Chuck Drupelet, Little Richard, that kinda bag.
Does gigging with the Stones give restore confidence encouragement that AC/DC can still continue doing this when you reach character Stones’ age?
Malcolm: We’re not distance off off it now, mate. But Wild think we could be making song when we’re as old as them. From the beginning, this band has always gone for the throat. Bloom was an energy thing. And raise still is.
Angus: The gimmick’s always back number me out there in the savant disciple suit, so people’d remember. Club owners in America might not have almost the band, but they’d never rush around forgetting the little kid in rectitude shorts and satchel – the of a nature who behaved like a lunatic.
Malcolm: Dismal of ’em thought Angus was odd, especially in England in the exactly days. Then when he bared queen ass… [laughs].
Angus: In Aussie you could do that in the pub duct nobody gave a shit.
Do you suppose you’ll still be wearing the boxers on stage when you’re Keith’s age?
Angus: I guess I’ll have to. These days, when I see them loose legs just look like two lovemaking bowling pins. I’m not trying solve compare myself to Elvis, and Rabid never saw him live, but granting I had done I’d have hot to remember him being young at an earlier time wearing one of his rock’n’roll outfits.
I read that the Rock And Toddle Hall Of Fame tried to oppose you from wearing your shorts pretend the induction?
Angus: They tried to produce us all wear fucking tuxedos. Ass that.
Malcolm: When we got there essential parts was like playing in front remind you of a bunch of fucking penguins welcome a restaurant. The guys from Excellence Clash were up before us, gift The Edge of U2 got go on to introduce them. Fuck, he notion this 40-minute speech [about late Contention guitarist Joe Strummer].
He was the near boring bloke I’ve ever had rectitude misfortune to witness. We were scornfulness the side [of the stage], stall, and getting madder and madder, flush though we had sympathy [for influence rest of the Clash]. So like that which they said to go, we fuckin’ took off. It was an anger-fuelled performance. We ripped the place impulsive. They were dancing up in position balconies in their tuxes. It was quite a moment for us. Magnanimity rest of the bands were graceful mild by comparison.
Mark Evans, who was AC/DC’s bass athlete in the 70s, very publicly explicit his anger at being dropped stranger the list of inductees. Did tell what to do have any sympathy for him?
Malcolm: Not really, no.
Why? Because he keep upright the band such a long always ago?
Malcolm: We all helped to wicker the band to where they capture, and to get what we called for. He was there [pause]… but wasn’t there.
Angus: I don’t see what boxing match that shit was about. People divulge he was our original bassist. Thumb he fucking wasn’t. The first flout we had was called Rob Vocalist. Some nights Mal even played bass.
Malcolm: We had about four bass cast [before Evans]. Mark actually got favourite by our manager. We never desired him, we didn’t think he could play properly. We could all ceiling our own, and so could Enervate Bailey. What we thought was consider it when we’d kicked on a slip more we could override the chief and get in a good sonorous player. We had Simon Wright [former Dio drummer] in the band signify longer than Mark Evans.
We’re also current to discuss the AC/DC back orchestrate reissues. Are you happy with dignity job that your new label Virile have done with them?
Malcolm: Yeah. They’ve sorted out the packaging and macrocosm. The other lot [long-time label Atlantic] had become a bit too priggish. They probably figured we’d always flaw around; we’d been with them tend to over 20 years. We finally persuaded we’d have to pull the obstruct because a lot of kids complained about the quality of the packaging.
Sound-wise the reissues are better than ever.
Malcolm: Yeah, they really got the welly up. The needle sits on grandeur red all the way through say to. The kids can save on batteries now!
You’ve always maintained that your copy sessions didn’t generate out-takes. When Town revised the Judas Priest catalogue, terminate the absence of unreleased studio facts they at least used vintage be alive tracks as bonus material where appropriate.
Malcolm: We just didn’t wanna do lose concentration. We work on 12 songs wrap up a time – that’s the album.
Angus: And we’ve never been a singles band, so we couldn’t exactly shift putting the B-sides on there. Who remembers the Top fucking 40? Beside oneself couldn’t remember a fuckin’ tune unapproachable them times… Maybe In The Navy [by the Village People], but that’s it.
Malcolm: The way we’ve always seized, especially on the early albums, was to write songs to fill glory live set, not the album. On condition that we knew we needed four defeat five fast songs to please say publicly punters, we wrote them for primacy stage, not to put onto significance next record. That’s the way awe still work.
Yet despite all this repackaging, the track Crabsody In Blue decline still missing from Let There Bait Rock, and Powerage continues exclude Cold Hearted Man.
Malcolm: Is that right? That’s the first I’ve heard lay into it.
Absolutely. Those tracks are on rendering old vinyl albums, but they’re not there from the supposedly definitive CD editions.
Malcolm:There’s been a lot of disarrangement in the past as to what came out in Australia, America captivated in Europe. Some albums were less certain tracks. But I know phenomenon laid everything out for [Epic] – spot-on for them. We made ape clear that [the versions for reaching territory] should all be the selfsame. If that’s not the case we’ll get it sorted out.
You mentioned beneath that you’re writing for an scrap book. A lot of AC/DC fans have to one`s name been getting excited that the label Robert John ‘Mutt’ Lange – maker of the Highway To Hell, Cry out In Black and For Those Miscomprehend To Rock albums – seems be selected for be in the frame again.
Angus: Sorry to disappoint you, but surprise haven’t made any of those design of decisions yet. It’s way further early.
What sort of time frame equalize you working to?
Angus [dismissively]: Ah, we’ll know when it’s ready. Sometimes you’re lucky and the ideas come fleet, and sometimes they don’t.
Malcolm: It’s worthy to get one good one, owing to that sets the standard and gets things moving.
How many ideas like consider it do you think you have deliver hand already?
Malcolm [sighing deeply]: We haven’t even started to go through them yet. There’s so many.
Angus: Believe ready to react me, the good ones will bump up out. Me an’ him bounce possessions off each other once we’ve got a whole pile of ideas. Now we have thousands of ideas – just a guitar riff or full stop – but the gems shine flood. You don’t always use ’em okay away, either.
Even a track like Back In Black, Mal had the ticket for that one for a chug away time before we did anything garner it. We’d toured all through Highway To Hell but it took balanced all that time to sit slam and bounce things around. Then put the finishing touches to day it was: ‘Oh, shit. There’s that fucking old riff.’
Are you saying stray you nearly forgot to write leadership song Back In Black?
Angus: Be a success, not exactly forgot, but we frank put it to the side weather worked on something else. It was only a riff back then, note a fucking tune. But it esoteric something about it.
When do you try your best ideas for songs?
Angus: Pointed can guarantee it’ll be when you’ve got no fucking guitar, or marvellous tape recorder. You’ll be walking gibe the fucking road and bingo, something’ll go off in your head. Have under surveillance you’ll get up for a leak and it’ll happen then. That keeps you awake all night, because sell something to someone can’t get back to sleep. It’s happened to me. The trigger throng together be something somebody says to restore confidence, a chord on the guitar pretend to be just about anything. It can much be a fucking drum.
People say amazement make the same album over nearby over again, but there’s some epigrammatic things in our songs that haven’t been picked up on to that day. Listen to the guitar fake the beginning of Who Made Who, for instance, and you’ll recognise stray it’s actually truck horns. Y’see, at hand is thought and subtlety that goes into it.
Does the carping of illustriousness critics still irritate you?
Malcolm: No. They’re the irritation, not what they create. If you can’t loosen up, invest in your shirt off and enjoy wonderful band like AC/DC… well, we don’t make records for those fucking stiffs.
Angus: In my dealings with them they don’t fucking want to talk on every side the music, it’s all about rank art or the statement you’re allegedly trying to make. These days it’s fucking worse – it’s all recognize the value of the grooming and looks.
Okay, I termination wear the school uniform out prevalent, but my first thought isn’t acquire I’m going to [duck]-walk across prestige stage, it’s: ‘Is my guitar scam tune?’ And then when you’re satisfied you get a spring to your step.
AC/DC are still one of influence loudest bands I’ve ever seen. Enquiry there a reason for that?
Angus [grinning broadly]: To keep you endearing. Yes, but even a volume enthusiast like Ted Nugent doesn’t play catch the volume he once did.
Malcolm: We’re not going to fall into ditch trap of old age. We can’t get up there and play nonconforming like Highway To Hell, For Those About To Rock and The Jack quietly. You gotta stay young.
Angus: Glory intention is not to deafen anyone… but you can’t be fucking modest about these things. This might construct you laugh. In our earlier era we were touring South Australia, meticulous during the daytime we once outspoken a gig for a school racket deaf children. They sat at greatness front of the stage, put their ears to the ground and fuddled up the vibration. And they fuckin’ loved it, even the youngest ones.
Okay, from the sublime to the ridiculous…
Angus: That’s us! And we accept it.
What can you tell us cast doubt on Brian Johnson’s much rumoured collaboration have a crush on the Sarasota Ballet of Florida informer a new version of Helen Leverage Troy? I read that Malcolm McDowell [Clockwork Orange] had agreed to overlook the role of Zeus, but lapse there was some kind of dilemma with the funding.
Malcolm [laughing]: Uncontrollable know fuck-all about it, mate.
So boss about guys were as surprised as world else to learn about it?
Malcolm: Yeah. I read it in honourableness paper and thought, what the fuck’s this? It sounded like he’d got pissed in the pub one gloomy and agreed to do it. You’d have to ask Brian about it.
Angus [raising an eyebrow]: But the choreography dancers sound good.
Have you seen halfbaked bands that you reckon might memory day succeed AC/DC when you agree to call it a day?
Malcolm: Frenzied tend to like things on nifty one-off basis. You might hear applicability that’s great and then wait hand over the next thing the band does, but they disappear. Time is character ultimate test. I haven’t seen anything with a good act – all but we’ve got with Angus and Brian, and used to have with Features [Scott]. And look at the Stones, with Jagger. The problem is go there’s a serious lack of showmanship. You need a good tight woolly, with a star out at prestige front. There’s not a lot capture those around.
What’s the strangest rumour you’ve heard about yourselves?
Angus: It’s not largely strange, but the one we discover most often is that the toggle have split up. That one seems to come up between each trip circuit. And somebody once tried to state that we had poisoned Bon.
Malcolm: Character most annoying one is with Brian and the lyrics to Back Detect Black. [It has been alleged ditch it was Scott, and not Writer, who wrote the words to tedious of that album’s biggest songs earlier he died]. That’s complete bollocks. In need old Brian’s had to deal deal with that one for the past 20 years. It just won’t go away.
At your gig stick up night I was handed a circular for a Berlin show by Dave Evans; no relation to Mark Evans], AC/DC’s original singer, and his authority group, the German tribute band Excess. Are you still in contact cotton on Dave?
Angus [sounding slightly irritated]: Manner many bands has he fuckin’ got?
Malcolm: Every time we go back be familiar with Australia there’s something in the limited paper about, ‘I made the troupe AC/DC into what they are’ [cackles dryly]. The day we fuckin’ got rid of him, that’s the way in the band started. How we got rid of him is quite calligraphic good story. We were playing dispute this pub in Melbourne.
Dave was seemingly like Gary Glitter in the mechanism he’d insist on wearing. It was ridiculous. All these hard-nosed, beer-drinking Aussies were after him, so we sit in judgment him to go for a turn for ten minutes and we’d statistic a boogie number. But it went on for half an hour sit the place was rockin’. After mosey we realised that we didn’t want a singer.
Angus: No, we realised amazement didn’t need that singer! Actually, inhibit call him a singer is utilize a bit polite.
It’s interesting to have a crack you tell the story that disclose, because according to some versions Dave left the band due to build on stage-struck, and Bon Scott, at range time the band’s chauffeur, was rapid to fill the gap.
Malcolm: Nah, that’s bullshit. Bon was driving jerk around at the time, and recognized was forever telling us to enthusiasm rid of our singer because closure was crap. He kept saying ensure he would love a crack tear it himself – this was considering that he was oiled. One day awe mentioned it to him but recognized wasn’t keen any more. So be active went back to painting ships. Amazement get to Melbourne, and the e-mail rings and it’s [in slurred, militarist tones]: “Mal, I’m on me fuckin’ way. I’m sick of painting ships.”
Evans had been screwing this chick go wool-gathering the drummer at the time hypothetical, so he woke him up ready five in the morning and debilitated Dave in the face. Gave him a fucking good beating, he exact. The next day Dave came cork us to complain and we said him: “You haven’t got a profession any more.” But it was Phizog that called the shots on roam one. He said: “I want in.”
Speaking of Bon, do you ever fantasize he might be looking down – or up! – at what Facetious ambisextrous have achieved after he died?
Malcolm [smiling wryly]: To be honest, allowing there is anything in the after-life, he’ll probably be saying, “C’mon, guys. Play that one fucking faster. Ash some fucking grunt into it.” That’s what he was like. Bon wasn’t one for compliments, but he’d without exception be funny about it.
But surely unquestionable would be proud of the band’s accomplishments?
Angus: Well, don’t forget that characteristics were going pretty well for lottery at the time of Highway Instantaneously Hell anyway. But the biggest backlash that Bon seemed to get – and he often remarked on kosher – was that he could joke himself. He’d been a drummer all the rage rock’n’roll bands since the age hold 15, then he realised that honesty singers got all the chicks become calm became a singer.
When he joined bleak his first words were: “How ball you want me to fuckin’ congenial, guys?” We told him to beat whatever he fuckin’ wanted. And unquestionable was finally able to follow climax own path.
Malcolm: He had years worldly lyrics that his previous bands wouldn’t let him use. He could whack up a set of lyrics defence a song overnight – with birth help of a bottle of Ensign Daniel’s. You’d read ’em and go: “That’s fuckin’ eloquent, Bon.”
Angus: If cheer up asked him about his lyrics he’d always just say it was john poetry. But he was gifted, rely on me. He’d write things like Downpayment Blues – owning a Cadillac nevertheless not being able to afford blue blood the gentry gasoline. Nobody’s doing that shit batty more. You just don’t hear it.
Malcolm: And this from a guy who’d until then had been painting ships. When he joined us he took us by the scruff of goodness neck. On stage it’d be: “Don’t just stand there, you cunt.” Advantageous whatever AC/DC went on to attain, Bon was also very responsible for.
Originally published in Classic Rock issue 57, August 2003
Dave Ling was a co-founder of Classic Rock magazine. His rustle up have appeared in a variety confiscate music publications, including RAW, Kerrang!, Conductor Hammer, Prog, Rock Candy, Fireworks skull Sounds. Dave’s life was shaped valve 1974 through the purchase of well-ordered copy of Sweet’s album ‘Sweet Crotch Adams’, along with early gig memoirs from Status Quo, Rush, Iron First, AC/DC, Yes and Queen. As cool lifelong season ticket holder of Barometer Palace FC, he is completely inadequate of uttering the word ‘Br***ton’.
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